Curse

sumasage · Jun 15, 2006, 08:03 PM // 20:03

Recently i tried to play with hammer and found a few good skills combos for the bar. I use Devastating Hammer {Elite} --> Crushing Blow --> Mighty Blow --> Heavy Blow. My concern is in Devastating Hammer follow by Crushing Blow. Here's the description of the two:

Devastating Hammer {Elite} - Hammer Attack
If Devastating Hammer hits, your target is knocked down and suffers from weakness for 5-17 seconds.

Crushing Blow - Hammer Attack
If this attack hits, you strike for 1-16 more damage. If you hit a knocked-down enemy, you inflict a deep wound, lowering your target's maximum health by 20% for 5-17 seconds

I notice that when hit a foe with Devastating Hammer, he get knockdown but by the time Crushing Blow hit, the foe is already on it's way getting up. Does "getting up" still consider as knockdown? Reason i ask is i want to know if the two skill combo will make the foe suffer weakness + deep wound. Let me know if i'm missing something. Thanks.

P.S if you have other good hammer combo let me know

audioaxes · Jun 15, 2006, 08:07 PM // 20:07

yes it still gets a deep wound
you should have stoneskin guantlets and with that combo you might as well use fierce blow instead of mighty

Seef II · Jun 15, 2006, 08:47 PM // 20:47

Use stonefists - if you don't, crushing blow may not register the deep wound if you combo too slow. But getting up still counts.

sumasage · Jun 15, 2006, 09:08 PM // 21:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by audioaxes

yes it still gets a deep wound
you should have stoneskin guantlets and with that combo you might as well use fierce blow instead of mighty

What is stoneskin gaunlets? is taht a green? if so where can i farm it?

Killmur · Jun 15, 2006, 09:13 PM // 21:13

http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Warrior_armor
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Stoneskin_Gauntlets

sumasage · Jun 15, 2006, 09:40 PM // 21:40

oop... double post

Jestah · Jun 16, 2006, 04:05 PM // 16:05

You should be able to get off atleast 2 attacks with hammer after Devastating. Stonefist Gauntlets and IAS are essential for KD chains.

This combo is usually enough to kill most things in one combo provided they aren't healed. Very good for 4v4 where there's usually only 1 healer but equally good for a 2 man spike in 8v8. Devastating, Crushing, Fierce, Heavy. Usually if you need Heavy Blow in 8v8 it's already too late but in 4v4 it's very useful for a followup because a single monk doesn't stand a chance vs a double knockdown without pre protting or off-monk support.

fb2000 · Jun 16, 2006, 04:13 PM // 16:13

you might also get confused with the get-up animation, afaik whilst the target is in that, it still counts as knocked down. it also seems to last a tiny bit longer than it visually does

just my 2 cents ^^

fatboyslimerr · Jun 16, 2006, 05:27 PM // 17:27

The best knock down combos using crushing blow are with backbreaker which has the wonderful affect of knocking target down for 4 SECONDS !!! Use that plus shock plus stonefist gauntlets for ultimate knockdownarama.

Quick Tip, Backbreaker costs 10 adrenaline which is a lot so try using To The Limit to gain adrenaline more quickly plus obviously an IAS like frenzy.

Jestah · Jun 16, 2006, 05:58 PM // 17:58

No need to knockdown for 4 seconds in 8 man pvp. If you take longer than 4 seconds spiking it's not gonna work anyway unless there's no second monk around. Only really need knockdown to stop kiting to make sure all spike skills land as fast as possible. Devastating is faster to charge and also causes weakness which is useful for chaining things like Fierce Blow.

sumasage · Jun 16, 2006, 06:04 PM // 18:04

what's ISA?

RotteN · Jun 16, 2006, 06:11 PM // 18:11

IAS = increased attack speed

skills like frenzy, tiger's fury, ... give IAS, enabling you to chain skills faster, bursting more DPS in a short period of time (so called "adrenalin spiking")

Emerald_Dream · Jun 17, 2006, 09:21 AM // 09:21

stoneskin doesnt affect backbreaker anyway

fatboyslimerr · Jun 17, 2006, 11:27 AM // 11:27

I know but it affects shock

fb2000 · Jun 17, 2006, 03:20 PM // 15:20

its not like the gloves make a huge difference anyway.. i personally prefer to have only 2 sets of gloves - pve all-purpose and pvp all-purpose ^_^

Jestah · Jun 17, 2006, 05:28 PM // 17:28

I always have stoneskin regardless of where I'm playing. In PvP you almost always have knockdown even if you're not using hammer and the (5?) extra armour isn't even worth the switch.